Launching rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities *also* violates international law and can do a heck of a lot more damage than a few grams of explosive hidden in devices used exclusively by terrorists.
Perfidious0Albion on
Israel: *oh you’re still here? Yeah you should probably leave now, it’s about to get a whole lot worse and I don’t really care what you think*
macross1984 on
Israel is just being creative fighting terrorists and by golly it had paid dividends in spades.
ElectroMcGiddys on
UN needs to stop simping for terrorists
nhlfanatical on
Id think that weaponizing devices is about you leaving them out in public. Im unsure how one can claim its about selling devices directly to said non uniformed military.
I.e. id think its about leaving a booby trapped toy out in public that you know a kid would want to pick up and play with (or selling in stores to the public the booby trapped pagers). One can perhaps claim that devices could get out to the public (resale), but that seems unlikely to occur to devices that work on “military radio channels” (the pagers/walkie talkies).
Ex: many hezbollah members carry guns everywhere they go, imagine one could booby trap their guns to explode like the pagers, would it make a difference if they sold said booby trapped guns directly to hezbollah vs pagers? Id argue no (and id think most would agree as well that its not a problem to sell them booby trapped guns) Would it make a difference if they sold the booby trapped guns to the public with the hope hezbollah members would buy them (vs pagers), id again argue no (per my above description, would be problematic).
Since they sold the pagers directly to hezbollah its not a problem from what id think.
walbeque on
Anything Israel does to protect its sovereignty and its people is against international law according to these idiots. Jews, we don’t expect you to fight back, we expect you to die.
peonoftheeon on
Maybe the UN should focus on not directly participating in Hamas’ bullshit if they expect to be taken seriously.
Monster_Voice on
Strong finger wag… duly noted. Thanks for the input Chief!
Next up… not so ordinary devices!
Your favorite spatula… bomb… a stack of old newspapers… bomb. Jewish spy pigeons… also bombs.
If you’re looking for a laugh, make sure to Google “Jewish spy animals”
TacomaDave93 on
The UN is such a joke these days. Arab countries can do whatever they want to Israel and they look the other way… if not help them. But heaven forbid Israel strikes back and they critique the hell out of them.
AriaTheAuraWitch on
Technical’s?
Drones?
Radios are also inherently a weapon just by existence.
Be a bit more clear, and be reasonable.
Rulings need to make sense at all levels. Don’t be a dumbarse.
tengteng23 on
Last time I check, firing rockets from civil building is also an act of terrorism
Let’s hope the UN sends out a strong warning to them! /s
thisis_not_throwaway on
I was actually thinking it was super creative and why the heck not responding? Don’t terrorists do similar shit? Does it violate any and everything?
panacuba on
UN. As useless as always.
glorious_reptile on
Surely ordering civilian items as a military organisation, effectively makes them military items.
MLNerdNmore on
> targeting thousands of Lebanese people using pagers, two-way radios and electronic equipment without their knowledge is a violation of international human rights law, the United Nations human rights chief said Friday.
Is he expecting opposing armies to call eachother up and tell eachother what they’re going to be targeting or attacking? Wtf is this statement? Did he expect Ukraine to call up Russia when they planted explosives in the airfield where they blew up helicopters?
These were communication devices used specifically by Hezbollah, inserted with a very small amount of explosives. It’s not like every communication device going into Lebanon was boobytrapped and then they blew it up hoping it’d hit Hezbollah. This is as targeted as you can get.
Fickle_Competition33 on
Russia has been using Medical Vehicles to carry weapons and I heard nothing from UN.
Caboose2701 on
The UN has never intervened in any genocide. They’re a walking joke. Just look up the countries that have made up the human rights council. And now they simp for terrorists. FOR SHAME.
DarkAngel900 on
What about “drones”?
stansfield123 on
Lol. Pagers used by Hezbollah aren’t “ordinary devices”. That law is about devices used by non-combatants.
Hayred on
For anyone interested, [this](https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/) is an interesting commentary on the actual laws at play here. There’s a fair bit more nuance to military law than I know I appreciated.
What I seldom see is that Israel was in all these cases attacked first. In fact they only occupied Gaza because they were attacked by Arab countries. Maybe the answer is to stop attacking Israel?
spaniel_rage on
“Türk, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, said the explosions not only violated international human rights law but also appear to violate international humanitarian law’s key principles in carrying out attacks: distinction between civilians and combatants, proportionality, and precautions.”
It literally doesn’t. Israel’s attack was a textbook example of an effective strike that met the criteria of distinction and proportionality. They weren’t indiscriminately rigging pagers but *only the ones procured by Hezbollah and distributed to its operatives*. Even Hezbollah and the Lebanese government concede that the vast majority of the casualties were Hezbollah.
What a fucking joke.
Numerous_Handle9144 on
They can say whatever they want their opinion is irrelevant and will only start mattering when they show everyone how to correctly shit on terrorists
Outrageous-Sign473 on
I’m pretty sure raping women and kids by an invading country is against international laws but the UN do fuck all.
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Launching rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities *also* violates international law and can do a heck of a lot more damage than a few grams of explosive hidden in devices used exclusively by terrorists.
Israel: *oh you’re still here? Yeah you should probably leave now, it’s about to get a whole lot worse and I don’t really care what you think*
Israel is just being creative fighting terrorists and by golly it had paid dividends in spades.
UN needs to stop simping for terrorists
Id think that weaponizing devices is about you leaving them out in public. Im unsure how one can claim its about selling devices directly to said non uniformed military.
I.e. id think its about leaving a booby trapped toy out in public that you know a kid would want to pick up and play with (or selling in stores to the public the booby trapped pagers). One can perhaps claim that devices could get out to the public (resale), but that seems unlikely to occur to devices that work on “military radio channels” (the pagers/walkie talkies).
Ex: many hezbollah members carry guns everywhere they go, imagine one could booby trap their guns to explode like the pagers, would it make a difference if they sold said booby trapped guns directly to hezbollah vs pagers? Id argue no (and id think most would agree as well that its not a problem to sell them booby trapped guns) Would it make a difference if they sold the booby trapped guns to the public with the hope hezbollah members would buy them (vs pagers), id again argue no (per my above description, would be problematic).
Since they sold the pagers directly to hezbollah its not a problem from what id think.
Anything Israel does to protect its sovereignty and its people is against international law according to these idiots. Jews, we don’t expect you to fight back, we expect you to die.
Maybe the UN should focus on not directly participating in Hamas’ bullshit if they expect to be taken seriously.
Strong finger wag… duly noted. Thanks for the input Chief!
Next up… not so ordinary devices!
Your favorite spatula… bomb… a stack of old newspapers… bomb. Jewish spy pigeons… also bombs.
If you’re looking for a laugh, make sure to Google “Jewish spy animals”
The UN is such a joke these days. Arab countries can do whatever they want to Israel and they look the other way… if not help them. But heaven forbid Israel strikes back and they critique the hell out of them.
Technical’s?
Drones?
Radios are also inherently a weapon just by existence.
Be a bit more clear, and be reasonable.
Rulings need to make sense at all levels. Don’t be a dumbarse.
Last time I check, firing rockets from civil building is also an act of terrorism
Wait , you mean leaving kids toys with bombs in it, like Hamas (https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/news/israel-finds-explosive-belts-made-for-kids-toy-chests-with-warheads-in-gaza/) does is not ok?
Let’s hope the UN sends out a strong warning to them! /s
I was actually thinking it was super creative and why the heck not responding? Don’t terrorists do similar shit? Does it violate any and everything?
UN. As useless as always.
Surely ordering civilian items as a military organisation, effectively makes them military items.
> targeting thousands of Lebanese people using pagers, two-way radios and electronic equipment without their knowledge is a violation of international human rights law, the United Nations human rights chief said Friday.
Is he expecting opposing armies to call eachother up and tell eachother what they’re going to be targeting or attacking? Wtf is this statement? Did he expect Ukraine to call up Russia when they planted explosives in the airfield where they blew up helicopters?
These were communication devices used specifically by Hezbollah, inserted with a very small amount of explosives. It’s not like every communication device going into Lebanon was boobytrapped and then they blew it up hoping it’d hit Hezbollah. This is as targeted as you can get.
Russia has been using Medical Vehicles to carry weapons and I heard nothing from UN.
The UN has never intervened in any genocide. They’re a walking joke. Just look up the countries that have made up the human rights council. And now they simp for terrorists. FOR SHAME.
What about “drones”?
Lol. Pagers used by Hezbollah aren’t “ordinary devices”. That law is about devices used by non-combatants.
For anyone interested, [this](https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/) is an interesting commentary on the actual laws at play here. There’s a fair bit more nuance to military law than I know I appreciated.
[This opinion piece](https://www.newsweek.com/sorry-aoc-israels-precision-attack-against-hezbollah-was-humane-legal-opinion-1957207) from a human rights attorney pretty clearly shows that this was not a violation of international law per Article 52, as the devices were distributed by Hezbollah for the express purpose of organizing terror activities and were not distributed to the population at large.
Like making rockets out of pipes?
Yeah we’ll be eagerly waiting your harsh letter
What I seldom see is that Israel was in all these cases attacked first. In fact they only occupied Gaza because they were attacked by Arab countries. Maybe the answer is to stop attacking Israel?
“Türk, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, said the explosions not only violated international human rights law but also appear to violate international humanitarian law’s key principles in carrying out attacks: distinction between civilians and combatants, proportionality, and precautions.”
It literally doesn’t. Israel’s attack was a textbook example of an effective strike that met the criteria of distinction and proportionality. They weren’t indiscriminately rigging pagers but *only the ones procured by Hezbollah and distributed to its operatives*. Even Hezbollah and the Lebanese government concede that the vast majority of the casualties were Hezbollah.
What a fucking joke.
They can say whatever they want their opinion is irrelevant and will only start mattering when they show everyone how to correctly shit on terrorists
I’m pretty sure raping women and kids by an invading country is against international laws but the UN do fuck all.