Isn’t it crazy that only one side is constantly fighting to change election rules?
newsweek on
By Dan Gooding | Live News Reporter
The key battleground state of Georgia’s election board voted Friday to force ballots to be hand-counted three times before a result is declared.
As one of multiple motions on changing how elections are run, less than 50 days out from Nov. 5, the new rule passed 3-2 on the conservative-leaning panel.
This is so transparently being done in bad faith. The fact that they’re making significant changes so close to a huge election makes that clear, even without looking at any of the specific decisions.
When you do look at some of the specifics, it’s obvious that they’re going to create huge logistical problems that in no way can be properly planned for in such a short amount of time. And all of these problems were clearly brought up to the election board members.
They are purposely sabotaging the election counting process in order to create chaos that they thing might help their preferred candidate. It’s blatantly clear, and the fact that they’re even allowed to make changes this close to the election is ridiculous.
twovles31 on
You would think any rules changed months before the election should need to be unanimous.
kabphillie on
Let’s just hope that Kamala Harris doesn’t need Georgia by the end of the night.
JubalHarshaw23 on
Which is a violation of Federal Voting laws.
Tommy__want__wingy on
So if Kamala wins they would have confirmed it 3 times….
Blue_Lake_3386 on
It’s a stall tactic so they can postpone certifying election results past the December 11 deadline after which it’s contested by the house. At least 30 election boards across the country are already planning to use this to stall or confuse vote totals. Unless Harris wins by a significant landslide margin this is going to be nasty.
Earthy-moon on
Democrats need to run on stop the steal!
Sure_Garbage_2119 on
republicans be scammers, nothing new under the sun…
whelpthatslife on
This could be the push for Georgia Democrats to come out full force.
Navyguy73 on
The best way to tell how scared republicans are is the number of rule changes prior to an election.
lizkbyer on
Desperate much?
CreativeProblemFail on
Georgia friends, this is even stronger proof that you need to get out and vote! The best way to combat this is overwhelming numbers of voting. This is your moment to try to put these voting fraud lies to rest.
julianriv on
Harris wins Ohio and Pennsylvania or NC = Georgia becomes irrelevant.
rarelyposts on
This is beyond repugnant. Voting has already begun in Virginia. I am so tired of republicans tilting the field in their favor and getting away with it.
I guess talking about a rigged election (for the past 9 years) was projection as always.
Blastosist on
I live in Oregon, we have been voting by mail for decades without controversy. Voting is not hard unless it’s to someone’s advantage.
Potential_Degree7089 on
Isn’t it ironic how we’re going back to hand-counting ballots like it’s 1776? In the age of AI and self-driving cars, we’re relying on human hands to fix election trust issues? If tech can’t be trusted with ballots, should we rethink self-checkout too? Or maybe go back to bartering?
cputek1 on
If you can’t win outright, change the rules.
jackstraw97 on
Even Georgia’s own AG (Republican) stated that the board is likely overstepping its authority with this move.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lawsuit is filed and an emergency injunction is granted stopping these rules from taking effect. Especially since the AG would be the one presumably having to defend the election board in court.
saintwaz on
Georgia has a long history of fucking with votes. 1876 election lead to Jim Crow laws. Granted they weren’t the only state back then that didn’t want people of color voting.
Keunster on
Ive never hated a person more in my entire fucking life
Dapper-Membership on
So…force hand counting so poll workers can do their jobs safely and in a timely manner? Yeah…that sure seemed to work out for those workers last election. Get ready for major intimidation and a long drawn out process…. just unreal the shit the GOP is pulling.
scissor415 on
so…the plan in Georgia is for the republicans to make the vote count painfully slow while Trump demands that he be declared the winner when the polls closed and then moan about cheating ad nauseam there after.
mr_sakitumi on
There’s a lawsuit on the horizon..
dallasdude on
They have to count all ballots by hand three times before they can announce a result for Georgia. In 2020 that was about 5,000,000 ballots.
This could take weeks to complete. Meanwhile Trump and all of the Republicans will be screaming they won no matter what, that the election was fraudulent, that government is incompetent for not being able to magically count 5 million ballots three separate times overnight, and that whatever happens in Georgia is too chaotic so oops it needs to go to the legislature.
What the fuck is even happening?
Here in Texas the governor is raiding 90 year old LULAC volunteers.
OptimalSpring6822 on
Oh man…. I hope after each recount they find Harriss with more votes every time. Hahahha!
thePHTucker on
North Carolina legislative branch fucked us too with the RFK Jr bullshit. The Supreme Court allowed him to be removed from the ballot 5 days after the deadline. They now have to reprint millions of ballots, so early voting has been basically shut down until they can finish the job. Bullshit machinations by the minority party to insure they have the advantage at all times. It’s fucking unconstitutional.
Gwar-Rawr on
That’s Tyranny. Gerogia rise up and stomp out this Tyranny. America stands by you.
M3tallica11 on
When are people gonna start doing something about all the shit Trump is doing all of. It is not legal. He’s threatening people and his plans are to harm people so I don’t understand what the hell is going on.
ExactDevelopment4892 on
Greatest democracy on earth… 😂
MWesty420 on
Three hand counts from the party of “all counting should be done on Election Day” and “STOP THE COUNT”? Sounds pretty weird
Asleep-Barnacle-3961 on
If democracy survives, the GOP doesn’t, and party leaders know it.
That explains much Republican activity around voting.
dominantspecies on
If you know a republican, you know garbage
GTdeSade on
I’ve written so many times on this, but here I go again:
I’m an election worker, an assistent precinct manager, in DeKalb County, GA. I’ve been through three election cycles so far.
As far as I know, from the information that has come out, THIS ISN’T A BIG DEAL. Because WE ALREADY DO THIS. What has been described:
“On Election Day, the poll manager and two sworn poll officers would unseal boxes, remove and record ballots and then three officers would each count all the votes.
If all three totals match, then the result would be signed off and the documents sealed again.”
…is already standard operating procedure in DeKalb county and has been for awhile. Note, I’m making an assumption here based on previous reporting. We are ONLY counting the TOTAL number of printed ballots and matching that number to the three other machines in each precinct. If that’s what they are “directing” us to do…then I don’t mind. We already do what is being described in the story.
At the end of the voting day, all the printed ballots are in the Scanner/Ballot box. After telling the scanner to close the polls, we print off three copies of the results from that scanner. The first copy goes with the memory chip from the scanner which is picked up separately from everything else by sworn courier officers. The second copy of the results is attached to the ballot box/scanner recap sheet which goes to the county office. The third copy of the results is posted publicly outside the precinct, usually on the door. In most elections, the campaigns have runners waiting for this information who copy it down and run off to the next precinct.
The actual printed ballots themselves are removed from the sealed ballot box and counted by three teams, each headed by one of the managers. We confirm that the number of printed ballots match the number of printed ballots reported by the ballot marking devices (the big touch screens) and also to the number of voter check-ins from the Poll Pads on the check in desk. Honestly, we keep a count of that number all day and report it hourly. We make sure that count never deviates from all three sources. After all the printed ballots are counted, we bind them together in groups of 25 and seal them into ballot transport boxes for delivery with all our other paperwork to the central office.
AMA about DeKalb county GA voting procedures and safe guards. Honestly, I really don’t understand why everyone is so nuts about this change. We already do this, it’s been a county rule for awhile. They are just now making it a state rule as well, I guess, with lots of headlines and performative bullshit to go along with it.
RiffRaffCatillacCat on
The J6 insurrection never stopped, it just spread nationwide to local election districts.
Thanks Garland, for refusing to hold any of the GOP involved with the planning, funding, and inciting of the J6 attack on American Democracy. You’ve given them permission to continue their insurrection. So they are.
sfxer001 on
Georgia is a shithole state.
splycedaddy on
Count them as many times as you like. Honestly I see this as a good things. If the results hand counted show donOLD lost.. it just dings his ability to say they are wrong
micah490 on
Republicans hate democracy. Let’s not pretend they don’t
peetar12 on
Pretty much stupid. Are they even going to run them through machines first? It’s standard everywhere hand recounts are done only in super tight elections… and take a lot of time. Mandatory 3 hand recounts is ridiculous. I’m guessing they are going to say for the big D counties all three hand counts have to match exactly. Twenty vote disparity in 700,000 votes, count’em again! Hopefully this shit gets shot down in court before the election.
continuousBaBa on
All the rigging is happening out in the open. Also in Nebraska they are trying to change rules right now.
dengar_hennessy on
Ladies and gentlemen, *THIS* is what election interference looks like
SwiftCase on
Hand counting three times makes it impossible to have a timely result and it’s just transparent election interference.
TheTallGuy0 on
Dems better have their army of lawyers all OVER this shit. This whole “move the goalposts at the last minute” bullshit should be a fucking felony for sure.
pantsmeplz on
LOL. But GOP said you shouldn’t make such significant political choices, like SCOTUS picks, so close to the election.
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Oh geez.
Why TF is Georgia not saying anything?
Isn’t it crazy that only one side is constantly fighting to change election rules?
By Dan Gooding | Live News Reporter
The key battleground state of Georgia’s election board voted Friday to force ballots to be hand-counted three times before a result is declared.
As one of multiple motions on changing how elections are run, less than 50 days out from Nov. 5, the new rule passed 3-2 on the conservative-leaning panel.
Read more: [https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-election-ballots-hand-counting-donald-trump-1957062](https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-election-ballots-hand-counting-donald-trump-1957062)
This is so transparently being done in bad faith. The fact that they’re making significant changes so close to a huge election makes that clear, even without looking at any of the specific decisions.
When you do look at some of the specifics, it’s obvious that they’re going to create huge logistical problems that in no way can be properly planned for in such a short amount of time. And all of these problems were clearly brought up to the election board members.
They are purposely sabotaging the election counting process in order to create chaos that they thing might help their preferred candidate. It’s blatantly clear, and the fact that they’re even allowed to make changes this close to the election is ridiculous.
You would think any rules changed months before the election should need to be unanimous.
Let’s just hope that Kamala Harris doesn’t need Georgia by the end of the night.
Which is a violation of Federal Voting laws.
So if Kamala wins they would have confirmed it 3 times….
It’s a stall tactic so they can postpone certifying election results past the December 11 deadline after which it’s contested by the house. At least 30 election boards across the country are already planning to use this to stall or confuse vote totals. Unless Harris wins by a significant landslide margin this is going to be nasty.
Democrats need to run on stop the steal!
republicans be scammers, nothing new under the sun…
This could be the push for Georgia Democrats to come out full force.
The best way to tell how scared republicans are is the number of rule changes prior to an election.
Desperate much?
Georgia friends, this is even stronger proof that you need to get out and vote! The best way to combat this is overwhelming numbers of voting. This is your moment to try to put these voting fraud lies to rest.
Harris wins Ohio and Pennsylvania or NC = Georgia becomes irrelevant.
This is beyond repugnant. Voting has already begun in Virginia. I am so tired of republicans tilting the field in their favor and getting away with it.
I guess talking about a rigged election (for the past 9 years) was projection as always.
I live in Oregon, we have been voting by mail for decades without controversy. Voting is not hard unless it’s to someone’s advantage.
Isn’t it ironic how we’re going back to hand-counting ballots like it’s 1776? In the age of AI and self-driving cars, we’re relying on human hands to fix election trust issues? If tech can’t be trusted with ballots, should we rethink self-checkout too? Or maybe go back to bartering?
If you can’t win outright, change the rules.
Even Georgia’s own AG (Republican) stated that the board is likely overstepping its authority with this move.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lawsuit is filed and an emergency injunction is granted stopping these rules from taking effect. Especially since the AG would be the one presumably having to defend the election board in court.
Georgia has a long history of fucking with votes. 1876 election lead to Jim Crow laws. Granted they weren’t the only state back then that didn’t want people of color voting.
Ive never hated a person more in my entire fucking life
So…force hand counting so poll workers can do their jobs safely and in a timely manner? Yeah…that sure seemed to work out for those workers last election. Get ready for major intimidation and a long drawn out process…. just unreal the shit the GOP is pulling.
so…the plan in Georgia is for the republicans to make the vote count painfully slow while Trump demands that he be declared the winner when the polls closed and then moan about cheating ad nauseam there after.
There’s a lawsuit on the horizon..
They have to count all ballots by hand three times before they can announce a result for Georgia. In 2020 that was about 5,000,000 ballots.
This could take weeks to complete. Meanwhile Trump and all of the Republicans will be screaming they won no matter what, that the election was fraudulent, that government is incompetent for not being able to magically count 5 million ballots three separate times overnight, and that whatever happens in Georgia is too chaotic so oops it needs to go to the legislature.
What the fuck is even happening?
Here in Texas the governor is raiding 90 year old LULAC volunteers.
Oh man…. I hope after each recount they find Harriss with more votes every time. Hahahha!
North Carolina legislative branch fucked us too with the RFK Jr bullshit. The Supreme Court allowed him to be removed from the ballot 5 days after the deadline. They now have to reprint millions of ballots, so early voting has been basically shut down until they can finish the job. Bullshit machinations by the minority party to insure they have the advantage at all times. It’s fucking unconstitutional.
That’s Tyranny. Gerogia rise up and stomp out this Tyranny. America stands by you.
When are people gonna start doing something about all the shit Trump is doing all of. It is not legal. He’s threatening people and his plans are to harm people so I don’t understand what the hell is going on.
Greatest democracy on earth… 😂
Three hand counts from the party of “all counting should be done on Election Day” and “STOP THE COUNT”? Sounds pretty weird
If democracy survives, the GOP doesn’t, and party leaders know it.
That explains much Republican activity around voting.
If you know a republican, you know garbage
I’ve written so many times on this, but here I go again:
I’m an election worker, an assistent precinct manager, in DeKalb County, GA. I’ve been through three election cycles so far.
As far as I know, from the information that has come out, THIS ISN’T A BIG DEAL. Because WE ALREADY DO THIS. What has been described:
“On Election Day, the poll manager and two sworn poll officers would unseal boxes, remove and record ballots and then three officers would each count all the votes.
If all three totals match, then the result would be signed off and the documents sealed again.”
…is already standard operating procedure in DeKalb county and has been for awhile. Note, I’m making an assumption here based on previous reporting. We are ONLY counting the TOTAL number of printed ballots and matching that number to the three other machines in each precinct. If that’s what they are “directing” us to do…then I don’t mind. We already do what is being described in the story.
At the end of the voting day, all the printed ballots are in the Scanner/Ballot box. After telling the scanner to close the polls, we print off three copies of the results from that scanner. The first copy goes with the memory chip from the scanner which is picked up separately from everything else by sworn courier officers. The second copy of the results is attached to the ballot box/scanner recap sheet which goes to the county office. The third copy of the results is posted publicly outside the precinct, usually on the door. In most elections, the campaigns have runners waiting for this information who copy it down and run off to the next precinct.
The actual printed ballots themselves are removed from the sealed ballot box and counted by three teams, each headed by one of the managers. We confirm that the number of printed ballots match the number of printed ballots reported by the ballot marking devices (the big touch screens) and also to the number of voter check-ins from the Poll Pads on the check in desk. Honestly, we keep a count of that number all day and report it hourly. We make sure that count never deviates from all three sources. After all the printed ballots are counted, we bind them together in groups of 25 and seal them into ballot transport boxes for delivery with all our other paperwork to the central office.
AMA about DeKalb county GA voting procedures and safe guards. Honestly, I really don’t understand why everyone is so nuts about this change. We already do this, it’s been a county rule for awhile. They are just now making it a state rule as well, I guess, with lots of headlines and performative bullshit to go along with it.
The J6 insurrection never stopped, it just spread nationwide to local election districts.
Thanks Garland, for refusing to hold any of the GOP involved with the planning, funding, and inciting of the J6 attack on American Democracy. You’ve given them permission to continue their insurrection. So they are.
Georgia is a shithole state.
Count them as many times as you like. Honestly I see this as a good things. If the results hand counted show donOLD lost.. it just dings his ability to say they are wrong
Republicans hate democracy. Let’s not pretend they don’t
Pretty much stupid. Are they even going to run them through machines first? It’s standard everywhere hand recounts are done only in super tight elections… and take a lot of time. Mandatory 3 hand recounts is ridiculous. I’m guessing they are going to say for the big D counties all three hand counts have to match exactly. Twenty vote disparity in 700,000 votes, count’em again! Hopefully this shit gets shot down in court before the election.
All the rigging is happening out in the open. Also in Nebraska they are trying to change rules right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, *THIS* is what election interference looks like
Hand counting three times makes it impossible to have a timely result and it’s just transparent election interference.
Dems better have their army of lawyers all OVER this shit. This whole “move the goalposts at the last minute” bullshit should be a fucking felony for sure.
LOL. But GOP said you shouldn’t make such significant political choices, like SCOTUS picks, so close to the election.