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    Elon Musk: SpaceX wird FAA wegen „Überregulierung“ verklagen


    Elon Musk: SpaceX wird FAA wegen „Überregulierung“ verklagen

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/17/elon-musk-says-spacex-will-sue-faa-for-regulatory-overreach.html

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    2. mrfixitx on

      Elon has never found a government agency he did not want to sue….

    3. BothZookeepergame612 on

      Good luck with that, the arrogance is palatable from Elon…

    4. oldschoolrobot on

      What scares me is this going to the Supreme Court, which would absolutely have his back on taking regulations apart.

    5. PlanetoftheAtheists on

      Just imagine if Trump wins and this miscreant heads up the ‘Department of Efficiency”. I’m sure only wonderful things will happen.

    6. Distinct_Audience457 on

      I mean after Loper Bright, this will be a strong challenge, unfortunately. Amazon Kuiper will be winners no matter the outcome. Crazy times

    7. Silly-Scene6524 on

      “How dare they hold me accountable for the regulations I violated”.

    8. PolicyWonka on

      Musk also filed a lawsuit against the NLRB claiming the agency is unconstitutional. Seems like the new playbook is to just file lawsuits against every single agency you don’t like and claim that their powers aren’t explicitly outlined.

    9. vancouvermatt on

      They fined him $140k for putting clean water on the launch pad without a permit in a place known for torrential downpour pours and hurricanes.

    10. HexpronePlaysPoorly on

      This man should definitely be given the power to cut the funding of federal agencies in the name of government efficiency. He would in no way use it to protect his own business interests from prosecution.

    11. yahboioioioi on

      How is the US supposed to be competitive in space when there’s countless land mines, red tape and bureaucracy to cross through? We don’t bat an eye to the test ranges all sorts of missiles and bombs in Nevada but to suggest something similar for US space testing is blasphemous.

    12. Leggo15 on

      This i feel is justified. The starship launches that was already approved was halted due to someone saying the freshwater they use for the deliuge system is bad for the enviroment…

      The case is practically pure bureaucracy nothing else will come of it other than everyone involved having to wait months for something that is already ready.

    13. Jeeper08JK on

      Good, We’re crippling our selves while other countires surge ahead. But by all means lets keep hobbling the only company putting our people in space AND bringing them back.

    14. koos_die_doos on

      And people wonder why NASA wants two contractors on Commercial Crew.

      > According to a “notice of proposed civil penalty,” the FAA clearly informed SpaceX on June 16, 2023, two days before the launch, that the agency “would not issue a modification” to the SpaceX license. SpaceX went ahead anyway.

      SpaceX is an amazing company and I hope it continues doing great things, but this is just silly. They didn’t need to change anything before getting approval, they’ve been launching Falcon-9’s for 14 years. It was a choice the knowingly made, and now they’re upset because the FAA is using the stick to get them back in line.

      Yes, I am well aware that the FAA is far slower than we all would like them to be. That doesn’t excuse SpaceX just ignoring the law.

    15. snowmunkey on

      Oh I’m sure this will speed everything up, lock the faa into legal battles for the next few years while publicly complaining they won’t just agree with everything you want to do

    16. DrJonah on

      “You can’t hold me responsible for what I do with my giant explosive missile.”

    17. precious_apple on

      I want a government so focused on The People that abusive billionaires like Elon have their companies nationalized, taxed for outsourcing labour and data (abroad and via AI), and they are prosecuted and suffer consequences for their crimes.

    18. AIL97 on

      Stop giving this guy attention ffs. Can’t not see him because everyone loves to talk about him all the time.

    19. giannidelgianni on

      Wasn’t there a guy with a submarine that was also anti-regulations? What did we learn from that? NOTHING!

    20. Aviationlord on

      Ask the people on the titan sub what they through about government overreach and safety regulations Elon…..

    21. 1leggeddog on

      This is the man who wants to take out safety equipment from his factories….

    22. HydroRide on

      I think suing federal agency is his favourite pastime, SpaceX has sued the Air Force a few times over NSSL launch contracting so this is a new target.

    23. knowsitmaybenot on

      I think the FAA reaching and making sure people launching giant space rockets into the air, are doing it safely is the proper amount of reach

    24. BakedOnions on

      whenever space x does something good, it’s Gwynn

      whenever they do something that ruffles people’s feathers, all of a sudden it’s Elon

    25. sftwareguy on

      Move 100 miles south and your problems go away. Make Mexico the #1 country for launching payloads.

    26. pomod on

      Yawn just another rich jerk who thinks rules shouldn’t apply to him. We need a law that prevents such obscene wealth pooling around a single individual.

    27. Economy_Link4609 on

      He knows that (1) this will take forever to be resolved and (2) is more likely than not going to go against him right?

    29. omniron on

      Musk bringing his political nonsense to spacex is the worst possible thing for the space industry

      He’s done enough damage at Tesla and Twitter, just keep it there

    30. Zombie-Lenin on

      Yeah, umm… the FAA has absolute regulatory control over civilian space launches. Go right ahead Elon, spend tens of millions of dollars suing the FAA only to discover at the end you still need to pay what is honestly a small fine all things considered.

    32. dnstommy on

      “Hardcore Legal Team”

      Which means it wont happen. Just more talk from Leon.

    33. jeremycb29 on

      This is because of chevron doctrine being screwed by the court and we are going to see more of these come up

    34. MelodiesOfLife6 on

      SpaceX needs to find a way to dump this moron, they are doing great things, but having elon attached to this in any way is a national security risk at this point.

    35. robertomeyers on

      With every case, there are two sides to the story. Given SpaceX is carrying passengers I would say appropriate regulation is prudent.

      After Ocean-Gate Titan tragedy, everyone is criticizing Stockton for bypassing regulators. Now Elon is asking for less regulation.

      We need something in the middle.

      I think its good to challenge, but we need to ask ourselves, do we want Elon to contest regulation after he has broken the rules, or before?

    36. ItsAllJustAHologram on

      When Musk first arrived on the scene, I was very impressed with him, the PayPal stuff, Tesla and emissions, SpaceX. Now? What a first class idiot he has become!! He must be doing way too many recreational drugs…

    37. Bluemoon_Samurai on

      No wonder he’s riding Trump’s balls for a spot on a government efficiency committee. He doesn’t want his companies being regulated

    38. Tre_Walker on

      Even if he has to take it to the supreme court , which he is currently paying forty five million a month for.

    39. Decronym on

      Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

      |Fewer Letters|More Letters|
      |——-|———|—|
      |[BO](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqlfy4 “Last usage”)|Blue Origin (*Bezos Rocketry*)|
      |[DoD](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqiu55 “Last usage”)|US Department of Defense|
      |EELV|[Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_Expendable_Launch_Vehicle)|
      |[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqoc1g “Last usage”)|Federal Aviation Administration|
      |[JWST](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqp77f “Last usage”)|James Webb infra-red Space Telescope|
      |[NSSL](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqlixz “Last usage”)|National Security Space Launch, formerly EELV|
      |[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqop34 “Last usage”)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
      |[ULA](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqoad7 “Last usage”)|United Launch Alliance (Lockheed/Boeing joint venture)|

      |Jargon|Definition|
      |——-|———|—|
      |[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1fjtd26/stub/lnqn9a5 “Last usage”)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|

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    40. ShivayaOm-SlavaUkr on

      Oh… now he trusts in unnelected justice representatives?!

    41. Sir_Henry_Deadman on

      How dare they Administrate Aviation who do they think they are!!

      Huh

      Oh…

      Ok

    42. Capable_Roof3214 on

      So a company that gets government handouts wants to sue the hand that feeds🤡🤬

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