Es stellt sich heraus, dass der Oberste Richter John Roberts selbst ein ziemlicher Stümper ist | Ein großes Lob an die New York Times für ihre Berichterstattung darüber, wie genau er im Fall Trumps Immunität Einfluss genommen hat.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62226176/john-roberts-scotus-trump-immunity/

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  1. TrickyDefinition3402 on

    You know it’s bad if even the NYT won’t sanitize it for the GOP.

  2. BarbieTheeStallion on

    We’ve known the fix is in, the question is what we do about it.

  3. gentleman_bronco on

    Show me a Republican and I will show you how they hate democracy.

  4. FrostyParking on

    The sad thing is that these type of people convince themselves they’re doing “the right” thing when they clearly are systemically breaking the US piece by piece.

    You have Alito hanging out with weirdos like princess TNT who wholeheartedly believes in “replacement theory” which is informing her stance on abortion the typical, (the white race will be wiped out because we allow white people to have abortions, while those shithole countries just keep making babies) nonsense.

    And you have clearly compromised people like Clarence Thomas making decisions where there’s obvious conflicts of interest for him.

    Ultimately, the US empire is rotten and is eating itself like all empires before it. 20 years from now the US as we know it, will be a thing of the past.

  5. boston_homo on

    “The deep state”, like literally every accusation coming from the right, is pure projection. There’s not a single member of the “conservative” Supreme Court majority that isn’t tainted by corruption, in some cases going all the way back to Reagan. The Heritage Foundation’s long game of focus on SCOTUS, the one branch of government that is untouchable, is as brilliant as it is evil.

  6. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62226176/john-roberts-scotus-trump-immunity/) reduced by 87%. (I’m a bot)
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    > The presence on the Supreme Court of obvious hacks like Mr. Justice Thomas and Mr. Justice Alito obscured the fact that Roberts is one of them.

    > In April, the chief justice assigned Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. to write a majority opinion saying that prosecutors had gone too far in bringing obstruction charges against some Capitol rioters.

    > So now Judge Tanya Chutkan has to pick her way through the obstacles set up by the Chief Justice in trying to obtain justice for the victims of the January 6 insurrectionary violence-both the literal victims of the violence and the victims at which the violence was aimed, which is to say all of us.

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  7. tRump tries to run things like a mafia. And part of that is to have judges in his pocket, which it seems he has accomplished.

  8. BreezyRyder on

    I get what the article is saying and I agree. It was surprising to see this memo. I know everyone in this thread is just saying “duh”, but as an ideological force, I have long thought Roberts was more of a moderate when compared to his peers. I’ve watched his opinions go more towards the center than the right since his appointment until the last couple of years. It is as if he’s been patiently waiting for this moment.

  9. TerminalObsessions on

    This is why the nation’s highest court shouldn’t be filled by inexperienced, unqualified political hacks whose only relevant quality is having kissed the right rings. Stop pretending that “elite” degrees and “prestigious clerkships” are a fucking thing. Most of SCOTUS has *never practiced law.* They’ve never had a client or argued a case or witnessed the incredible diversity of people and circumstances that make up our nation. Stop giving power to incompetent nepo-babies whose entire life has been living in a consequence-free bubble getting groomed by the Federalist society. 

  10. Determining the outcome before hearing arguments is a fundamental lapse in judicial ethics and violates the code of conduct for federal judges that the chief justice helps set.

    Justices taking bribes need to be in jail.

  11. Because it was never about a faithful interpretation of the constitution.

  12. monkeybiziu on

    The Founders had the right idea with lifetime appointments and a high bar for removal when it came to Judicial appointments, especially on SCOTUS, but they also failed to consider what being effectively beyond consequences can mean for individuals.

    Politicians, to some degree, are held in check by voters. Go too far in any direction, and you’ll lose election or re-election.

    Once a judge is on the bench, they have to fuck up so publicly and to such a degree that it threatens the entire Judicial system for there to be even a consideration they be removed, and even then the chances it’ll happen are virtually zero.

    Meanwhile, SCOTUS’ currently majority can simply wait. They can legislate from the bench by turning SCOTUS into an Auntie Anne’s and twist two hundred years of jurisprudence into a pretzel to meet their own ends and goals.

    They won’t stop until they are stopped, either by removal, incapacitation, or ineffectiveness.

  13. aaahhhhhhfine on

    I’ll admit I don’t know a ton about the inner workings of the Supreme Court… But I think this is pretty normal. The vast majority of cases don’t get accepted by the court and it takes (I think) four judges agreeing that it’s something they should pick up. So I do think they routinely try to convince one another to pick up different cases, making points about the relevance, likelihood of it mattering for the country, etc.

    I agree that this case went too far in establishing immunity, but it doesn’t seem like Roberts sending a memo to make the case for picking it up is all that weird.

  14. One-Distribution-626 on

    Perjury in front of the senate and people of the United States at their own confirmation hearings.

  15. ChiliBoppers on

    That’s the face of a man who knows there ain’t nothing anybody can do to stop him.

  16. Justices can be impeached & removed…right? I mean not with our current Congress…but a more effective and less corrupt one.

  17. Curious80123 on

    The whole SC needs to be turned out, recreated with new rules on donations and refilled, best to start fresh

  18. captainraffi on

    Shout out to all the “Roberts cares about the legitimacy of his court” libs

  19. GuitarGeezer on

    These justices need to stop and ask themselves if they are a force on the side of maximum corruption or if they were going to ever do anything for good people. They get so closed off in their extremist political and religious ‘in groups’ and/or being visibly bribed by bad guys like Injustice Clearance Thomas that what they have done for 20 years is nothing less than fully legalize bribery and coercion in politics. That is the worst legacy of any school of thought in court history other than Dred Scott era.

  20. Sure_Rutabaga_1802 on

    I’ve been saying this forever. This human skidmark John Roberts is the one behind Citizens United and Shelby v Holder. He has never been a “moderate” conservative. He is just as corrupt and evil as Alito and Thomas. I hate him so much, all three of them. Impeach every one of them.

  21. AncientScratch1670 on

    I used to feel bad because he got his name attached to this dysfunctional disaster, I.e. The Roberts Court. I thought it was unfair that he was expected to herd weirdos like Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch. Now I see that he truly is the ringmaster of this circus and no matter how cynical you are about our Judicial Branch, you’re not cynical enough.

    Reminder: Sinema and Manchin voted against killing the filibuster and letting Biden pack the Court. They’ll go down in history as failures alongside the simpering, obsequious Republican lapdogs.

  22. Why are news outlets acting like this is somehow a shocking revelation? This is the most corrupt SCOTUS in history, and that’s been obvious for years.

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