Wie bitte? Dieser Typ will im Grunde einen weiteren Krieg. Die Armenier können doch nicht wirklich glauben, dass sie einen Angriffskrieg gegen Aserbaidschan gewinnen würden?
Wie bitte? Dieser Typ will im Grunde einen weiteren Krieg. Die Armenier können doch nicht wirklich glauben, dass sie einen Angriffskrieg gegen Aserbaidschan gewinnen würden?
I think their plan is not another war but to prevent peace. If these guys topple Pashinyan it’s very obvious that they will stall peace talks forever to keep both countries on each other’s throats vying for Russia’s aid in accomplishing their goals. Of course Russia will just play both sides and take advantage of the situation. It seems most people in Armenia kind of understand this is a Russian scheme so hopefully Pashinyan will stay in power and we’ll soon have peace and normalization.
MekhaDuk on
pashinyan may be the best president Armenia has ever seen, so he should be supported and peace should be signed so that if maniacs like him come to power and tear up the agreement, they will be the only ones to blame
CauCaSSus on
Diasporoid crybabies will never succeed. They can only cry from far. WE ARE DONE. Well i hope so.
NotSamuraiJosh26_2 on
I have seen his rallies.He usually has 100 supporters or something.He shouldn’t be taken seriously as long as Pashinyan is bashing down their propagandas
mitraheads on
They can’t win any war with Azerbaijan. They believed in big brother Russia. And Russia is melting down in Ukraine. In this case Turkiye feels weakness of Russia. So Armenia should count Turkiye in front of them on a possible war scenario.
YGBullettsky on
If by any miracle he were to win power over Pashitnyan, I think it’d actually be a good thing. Then the West would be more critical of Armenia and realize that it’s a country full of crazy extremists who like to play the victim. Also, Armenia would obviously lose any other conflict so it could be advantageous for Azerbaijan to once again assert their dominance in the region.
Peoples-hero on
The fast majority of Armenians in the world don’t want this Russian puppet Clerc. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothes.
YeetCommie on
The Armenian diaspora probably thinks they could win another war. The average citizen in Armenia, not so much
Gandoneek on
It’s 5% of the Armenians protesting. The rest know what’s right.
Fizuli_TheWiseOne on
Do they know what they want? One day they say they want world peace, the next day they are ready to organize a crusade against Baku, their opinion changes every hour lmao
Inevitable_4791 on
Peace with Turkey and Azerbaijan is not an option for diaspora. This has always been like that. These orgs have the ultimate vision of a huge war breaking out between Turks and Russians with the east getting cleansed so they can claim it. They have had control over these diaspora even since they have become diaspora. It is an immense loss to see millions of Armenians that could aid the country be basically at best useless and at worst your enemy (for armenia). While for me, its funny to see em fight, its still opressive and sad. This is similar vibes like the ultra christians in the america being pro israel cause they want the jews to keep it clean untill jesus comes back and the end of the world starts. Keep armenia “clean” till the end of times start. It does not matter if Turkey and Russia are buddies now, does not matter if we and Russia are buddies now, they will keep to that 0.1 percent till the end of times.
There is a reason why so many of them have themselves convinced it is inevitable azerbaijan will start the genocidal war to end armenia sooner or later, they need to believe this, and need us to do it, cause armenia getting destroyed is a better fate for them chilling in diaspora countries thn armenia making peace with their neighbors heralding the metaphorical end of the genocide.
It is their own fault they led themselves to a position where they have to look towards peace with their genocidal neighbors or isolate and be a russian colony till the end wars of our times start. Continuously mythologically rephrasing history and making up bullshit you are bound to have a huge portion of your people becoming shizophrinic as you keep shifting the zeitgeist on a whim. You reap what you sow.
Unexpected_Buttsex on
Step 1: Attack your neighbour
Step 2: Lose war
Step 3: Make western nations believe your neighbour is the agressor
Step 4: Call it genocide
Step 5: Repeat
sevdabeast on
If any of you made any effort in reading the reasons why, it’s not because armenia is planning another war (first off, with what and how many people) It’s because of pashinyan’s incompetence and the fact he lost 2020 and 2023, and yet, he still hasnt stepped down. Unfortunately, the only person now to step up is this guy, which i dont even know if its better or worse.
And dont lie to yourselves, we know that azeri times is a propaganda newspaper..
It’s not to impede peace, but to get something my fairer, instead of this “land for peace” bs, which we know is a lie. It’s another village in the high grounds and you can see what’s below, that’s why aliyev wants to high grounds, to observe what is going on and probably plan or threaten armenia with another invasion
birnefer on
I understand the Armenians’ frustration. Pashinyan’s government is bad at public diplomacy. After the November 2020 agreement, Aliyev sold it to the people as an absolute victory over Armenia. Only later did we find out that he had invited Russian troops and that part of the territory in the middle of Karabakh would still be under the control of the NK regime. Now imagine if Aliyev had the same level of transparency as Pashinyan. People would go crazy and accuse him of treason.
Pashinyan cannot effectively communicate the significance of his actions to the people. Azerbaijan and Turkey should open the borders soon and let Armenians taste economic growth and prosperity. That would be a win-win situation, in my view.
raffee_tatool on
I’m not a supporter of this guy, but the more Aliyev pushes on and Pashinyan gives away, the easier it will be for such people to gain support and take advantage of disgruntled people.
It’s not exactly the same but this is similar to what happened in Germany after WWI and what eventually allowed Hitler to rise to power, because Germans felt hard done by.
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I think their plan is not another war but to prevent peace. If these guys topple Pashinyan it’s very obvious that they will stall peace talks forever to keep both countries on each other’s throats vying for Russia’s aid in accomplishing their goals. Of course Russia will just play both sides and take advantage of the situation. It seems most people in Armenia kind of understand this is a Russian scheme so hopefully Pashinyan will stay in power and we’ll soon have peace and normalization.
pashinyan may be the best president Armenia has ever seen, so he should be supported and peace should be signed so that if maniacs like him come to power and tear up the agreement, they will be the only ones to blame
Diasporoid crybabies will never succeed. They can only cry from far. WE ARE DONE. Well i hope so.
I have seen his rallies.He usually has 100 supporters or something.He shouldn’t be taken seriously as long as Pashinyan is bashing down their propagandas
They can’t win any war with Azerbaijan. They believed in big brother Russia. And Russia is melting down in Ukraine. In this case Turkiye feels weakness of Russia. So Armenia should count Turkiye in front of them on a possible war scenario.
If by any miracle he were to win power over Pashitnyan, I think it’d actually be a good thing. Then the West would be more critical of Armenia and realize that it’s a country full of crazy extremists who like to play the victim. Also, Armenia would obviously lose any other conflict so it could be advantageous for Azerbaijan to once again assert their dominance in the region.
The fast majority of Armenians in the world don’t want this Russian puppet Clerc. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothes.
The Armenian diaspora probably thinks they could win another war. The average citizen in Armenia, not so much
It’s 5% of the Armenians protesting. The rest know what’s right.
Do they know what they want? One day they say they want world peace, the next day they are ready to organize a crusade against Baku, their opinion changes every hour lmao
Peace with Turkey and Azerbaijan is not an option for diaspora. This has always been like that. These orgs have the ultimate vision of a huge war breaking out between Turks and Russians with the east getting cleansed so they can claim it. They have had control over these diaspora even since they have become diaspora. It is an immense loss to see millions of Armenians that could aid the country be basically at best useless and at worst your enemy (for armenia). While for me, its funny to see em fight, its still opressive and sad. This is similar vibes like the ultra christians in the america being pro israel cause they want the jews to keep it clean untill jesus comes back and the end of the world starts. Keep armenia “clean” till the end of times start. It does not matter if Turkey and Russia are buddies now, does not matter if we and Russia are buddies now, they will keep to that 0.1 percent till the end of times.
There is a reason why so many of them have themselves convinced it is inevitable azerbaijan will start the genocidal war to end armenia sooner or later, they need to believe this, and need us to do it, cause armenia getting destroyed is a better fate for them chilling in diaspora countries thn armenia making peace with their neighbors heralding the metaphorical end of the genocide.
It is their own fault they led themselves to a position where they have to look towards peace with their genocidal neighbors or isolate and be a russian colony till the end wars of our times start. Continuously mythologically rephrasing history and making up bullshit you are bound to have a huge portion of your people becoming shizophrinic as you keep shifting the zeitgeist on a whim. You reap what you sow.
Step 1: Attack your neighbour
Step 2: Lose war
Step 3: Make western nations believe your neighbour is the agressor
Step 4: Call it genocide
Step 5: Repeat
If any of you made any effort in reading the reasons why, it’s not because armenia is planning another war (first off, with what and how many people) It’s because of pashinyan’s incompetence and the fact he lost 2020 and 2023, and yet, he still hasnt stepped down. Unfortunately, the only person now to step up is this guy, which i dont even know if its better or worse.
And dont lie to yourselves, we know that azeri times is a propaganda newspaper..
It’s not to impede peace, but to get something my fairer, instead of this “land for peace” bs, which we know is a lie. It’s another village in the high grounds and you can see what’s below, that’s why aliyev wants to high grounds, to observe what is going on and probably plan or threaten armenia with another invasion
I understand the Armenians’ frustration. Pashinyan’s government is bad at public diplomacy. After the November 2020 agreement, Aliyev sold it to the people as an absolute victory over Armenia. Only later did we find out that he had invited Russian troops and that part of the territory in the middle of Karabakh would still be under the control of the NK regime. Now imagine if Aliyev had the same level of transparency as Pashinyan. People would go crazy and accuse him of treason.
Pashinyan cannot effectively communicate the significance of his actions to the people. Azerbaijan and Turkey should open the borders soon and let Armenians taste economic growth and prosperity. That would be a win-win situation, in my view.
I’m not a supporter of this guy, but the more Aliyev pushes on and Pashinyan gives away, the easier it will be for such people to gain support and take advantage of disgruntled people.
It’s not exactly the same but this is similar to what happened in Germany after WWI and what eventually allowed Hitler to rise to power, because Germans felt hard done by.